(Raipur, January 15, 2008, the afternoon 2 pm)
The state police command over the DGP vishwaranjan not only policemen, their inside a poet, writer, photographer, painter and a novelist is also hidden. However, they still only his police job in addition to the poet can keep alive. Police working a long time he has seen a very close and its problems are well known. State police in the number of them reduction and they show that this problem through new recruits respectively being away. vishwaranjan believe that the political pressure to come - not to come, depending on the character of the officer. If the officer wrongdoing, it will also not stand. Who will do the right thing, he stand and make its mark. Law and order in making contributions to the public and they well understand the police for their work also is going. State police chief vihwaranjan had a long discussion to Babloo Tiwari. Here are key excerpts of their conversation --
0 - suhaila last days of the scandal behind because of what you find? It also encountered it that the sarpanch of the dead villagers burnt alive against the local police station, there were lots of complaints. His name monitoring list of police station was also the antecedents of the list. The day of the incident, the police station during the day there dance the morning until two soldiers also were present. Police have so much information is already being but defensive action, why not found? Why do people take the law into our own hands is engaged?
00 - The police force is one major cause of the shortage, which led to a lot of things are being ignored - such as village vcnd ie Crime book notes. There was a time when patrolling in the village and its seems that the month was a routine patrol in so many villages will will. During the patrol station in the village and was vcnb to sit here that the match was on the bullies who, relying on what can be done, on what can not be here, what are local problems, there is not any dispute Is likely to be. The process of the past 12-15 years have been greatly reduced, or close to one. The reason is that the last several years has not been enrolled in the police, which stations in the force he was half way round. Resulting in the closure of patrolling in the villages. Now a village in the incident when someone is there to be only station gets, the village at that time about him not getting much information is deciduous. In the old days in villages and moon-dark night in what way will the patrol was set. The second thing is, between the villages of the population also grew, the ratio of police rather than its low. According to the police station and the old force should grow, it has not happened. We are trying to police that he was in the old rules should be running again. There is also a lot of problems, because there is not much force that we will be able to kind of patrolling. We have spoken to the people's cooperation Take it. Village defence team tried to make it. So that police could get information immediately. As far as suhaila scandal is concerned, there dance programme during the night two soldiers were in dispute, calm night, they provide. He felt that was all right, it's certainly not able to fears that the dispute again tomorrow may hold. It tests for detection of the two soldiers had been told that the police station in the event of the night came and gave that information?
Note to the soldiers in the old days information book and the book was observation note.information in the notebook he keeps by vcnb note of information. Whenever any of the villages, it was noted by the new information was brought. It also keeps the information was that if death has been informed, to whom, whom to contact, in whom the village is going to take information about the activity. This is now close to one. He noted in the book observation own study, according to information brought by note. It also now is over. mp days, it was shut down, but his place and the soldiers were keeping a notebook note by bringing information to show the station. And the station was signed in vcnb information necessary to enter and take action according to their them. Today, all of these things from 22 years ago, when I was here when the current had now come and discover is that all of these have lost. At that time, and a third thing was that the SP of Crime diary fills your hands. Now it is not Crime diary fills, and DSP-sdop enter. Crime does not fill the diary due to the SP not to know where to find what is going on, to know the major events are deciduous. Crime diary to fill the SP a look at what was known - what problem police station in what is going on, what - what kind of crime are. He also knows what it takes is that the right station is working, what is good in querry station, who handle law and order takes the right way, investigation who does well. The calculation of the need to work on them, according to thana incharg using them. SP stations in the three - a three-day inspection. Inspection is still happening, it is also too long written record that it is not good, it sent the memo to fix it. But those days sitting in the police station SP record fine offering. Register is not full, had not noted in vcnb, provides all right. Later, there was a conference, in which the entire staff to summon police station SP was in the area and each takes about its information. The policemen in the area who knew a lot about it and the reward was also knew that convicted him. Now it has changed the nature of that policemen are prompted to submit their problems, it is also right, but we are going back to the old form of trying. The real scandal suhaila also is that if the police station was full of vcnb it has inspected and no, it is known is that suhaila in the long-running feud. The first station that it works, Prof. - take active action. The present situation of the police by sending them information. We are basic policing forget. We are moving toward accelerated policing. The problem, the Force began here two, the incident occurred, the low investigation here. As long as the basic policing we will not, until a lot of things we will not be able to control. It was also important for us and because the staff is less, the population is increasing, the capital has become a new area are increasing, new people are coming, with her servant are coming, the new factory opens Are, among people coming to work. Some of the current vcnb it will be filled, such as how many criminal in the area, who has been convicted of what, who monitoring bullies, how many times has been stolen, who is involved in the crime which will get its information. It is not going to be great that we can - a large theft, robbery take hold, but the day-to-day control, we will not be able to Crime. In the basic things have to work hard, but the police have a complete picture of each area. The problem of caste in the scandal suhaila also encountered. The problem of caste only the police can not solve. The race was the problem. In Bihar, we are that we know how dangerous it is caste conflict. The county policing abroad in very good solution, the panchayats have their own station, he himself does the recruitment of policemen. 5-10 are policemen in a police station. The head of the local police station, there is also, it is well known that what is going on in the village. He is also on responcbility, because it will not work properly, the Panchayat it out assistance. We have, therefore, can not be that it is not here, the more transparency in the panchayats, not the more money. We have stations in the area of Rural 50-100 come to the village, where the gain is equal to the force is not possible because of the shortage. The measure, as we have kotwar system, which is still, but now the problem is getting the information that we were able to take it now can not take. For now kotwar also become a part of the village's internal politics is. He is living the same village, so it benefits - according to police damage to the information on. He also receive an honorarium is not equal. Another village in the police force not because of lack of being able to be. Police around the village in the involve Crime is so basic policing not find. We have said that at least vcnb record so that there is no right to be in the village when it vcnb read it, so it's about the village. If the police will vcnb reading, it will also fill.
As for the SP's three-day inspection it is also the question of solution can be. We have spoken to you that the inspection stations, a three-day stay with you, instead of one - could one day inspection, inspection station after speaking to us that who's record is not right, fix it again to come and see us work . Let's talk left the city in the Rural stations, it can be done only, instead of SP and the DSP also sdop inspection can actually happens is that once a habit after the rebate to bring it back have to work hard . We are in our age of the day every day from the beginning of the Crime diary writing. The morning until seven am to 8 -9-10 am writing diary was again ready to go to office. It was included in the habit. At that time there was a parade two days - Tuesday and Friday. Two days a week you were in line, always know that what is happening there. The soldiers talk shows was that they were, what the problems. This is when we'll leave it all, the problems will be. Now the force is low, and duties by the same people night in the morning, you are who will take the parade. The four-man parade, will not. The parade is happening now that non-official line do not go. We have said that without the work you go into a line of the day - two hours siting. You will excuse employees from the same thing, you will find that the routine or the other because of what he is being harassed, which is its impact on performance. As far as the public take the law is concerned there are a number of things, the first thing that when a boil in the village, and police were not aware of his taking over for him, you have to very strictly. If the police do not strictly because of that it will handle, then you do not handle, it is possible. The second is that the situation came to why I said that the fundamental policing not to the police station to address not only reveals what is in that village. At the same time, it is also political reasons, including such things are made. The elections around the graph increases. It is different this is the case here, the police found that not predict how big as a small incident will take. You only guess when you know that will put a village Who are the people who can work do, or what the people what they are gathered in the village. So I say that as long as the basic policing police will not, until a diagnosis can not be a problem. We are only problem for today, for tomorrow.
0 - Force lack the city - the stations in the village remains, for what is being done, the stations are still in force, which approved the terms of the population according to 1992, also increased what it was? Is this focus on recruitment with being the force that abuse of officials and leaders of the bungalows not?
00 - Police Force to the State Government has increased from 21 thousand to 42 thousand. It DF, CAF, STF and ATS the including . To fill vacancies as well as the population according to the stations stand also been stressed. Since a long time, the recruitment is not so in such a large number can not be recruited. The other problem is that if we take together, we are also recruiting sergeant - Where will the ASI. We soldier and all the posts on the recruitment of inspactor do. The soldier, and who will lead the sergeant. Training with the terms of such a problem. We now step - to - step are recruiting, so that the sergeant - not to be found to lack the ASI. I believe that in the next two years, we stations in the Rural Force will meet the shortage. So far, about 5 thousand posts have been recruited.
The second thing is that it force the misuse of a security structure that remains is how much of what the officer's force will be deployed. Our problem is that when it is being made, the officers of State and VIP for the structure was created to increase it now has. Now, VIP and officers and are on the rise as a force. It therefore miss - not use. If it is for other reasons, such as if a SP DF according to the bungalows on his men to be deployed, it does not see us address. For the SP under DF day. When such cases shows that the process is. While the abuse of CAF SP also can not because the young at the time of the parade inspaction and duties in the book is the notes. We have the men to 40-50 CAF removed from the bungalows, they are placed in PHQ, the Law & Order at the time of the district police to help them. We are stopped CAF abuse. We know the DF not find, if known, is the pressure can be put.
0 - community policing work for the state in what is being done?
00 - cities, we in the committee to make every town slowly - are slowly beginning. The Standing Committee will not, every two months, its members will change in any way so that it could not mix. Has been observed that the Committee of the police to get people or a community or group of people are added to the committee did not help the police to get. That more and more people will get the chance to join the police. It has been earmarked to start the meeting. We still Bilaspur it - including Raigarh started as a pilot in the four cities are doing, so it needs to be improved if any, it can be. Then it will be running in all districts. In villages to create a village defence team has been asked to TI. However, it is not possible to make all the villages, but the sensitive villages in the defence team was essential to make TI.
0 - India, which the State Police and the good you why? Chhattisgarh police for being so what is?
00 - Look It's a question that according to what you see. Crime control, according to see if the Maharashtra, Gujarat, Tamil Nadu, AP, Karnataka's very professional police. Response time they are very good. They have more force. Training Schools are good. State governments spend money on the police budget. North India in force from the beginning of the shortage. 15-20 years ago, police मप्र was considered very good. The label on the SP Public Response was very good. The reason I have also searched, since kings family were here, the SP do not take the risk he was not found anyone, who is not known what the king's man. Seventy of the decade in the middle of the night phone calls to raise the SP. Today, all the advance state commissnary systems are implemented. Police have commissnary system in the fund and is also more power. They have the right magistrate also live. While CG, MP, Rajasthan, UP, Bihar, Orissa, etc. This system is not. While Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu, Kerala, AP, Karnataka, in Calcutta, from the start. It is these states to quickly understood that if the state came to the development of law and order, the tone - will be kept sound. For this, the police will have to spend more.
0 - Bangalore in public places, including some directly complained to the police deployed there, rather than voluntary workers to provide their complaints. It made with the police by the public to reduce the abuse has been. It can be done here?
00 - many of the job is being replaced, the beginning of the Tamil Nadu cadre IPS officer of Philips. Friends police in many states today are working, although they try to resolve simple cases, when handle not matter to them if they have it transfer to the police. Major direct action by the police in affance. Kerala, Tamil Nadu, AP in this work is going on. Punjab in the second terrism to work on this type of effort has been. Is being tried in Lucknow. Friends of the police in the police community is not, but the community go to the police says that he is trying to help her. Friends of the police in the last ten years there has been a lot of work. We go to the community here are trying to create a committee. Slowly, the people here to help the police will come.
0 - Women in the police station to resolve the cases of family counseling, which the law has been how successful you get it?
00 - I am not see it a lot more successful, because in most cases to resolve the team not succeed deciduous. The difference between men and women and the law because of dowry. Man to woman is not ready to acknowledge their equal. Women are educated and their right to petition, the controversy is generated. To solve this problem any Councillor can not go home because both attitude is the same. Dowry-related cases must succeed in getting the counseling team.
0 - politicians came a day by police officers threatening to get live reports, police officers pressure on the leaders by making uninspiring get work, not to say they are getting punished for is called, how do you take it?
00 - The leader or official of the problem is not the reason behind the social environment. The fragmentation of power out of feudalism. What you are speaking for the leader of the official also applies. Now, politicians and officials have the power has been reached. Has the same officers who come under pressure himself and begin to play with the law are corrupt. Ten officers themselves who will do wrong, it will come under stress. This means leaders and the police is not a direct means of honesty from you. Ten wrong when you work, how to stop the other can do. If you have dug down hole kept, how you attack, attack, in hole must fall. If you are honest, the U.S. action, then it makes any pressure on his tell and stand. Any more and more of what you can, transfer. There also be a place where new work honestly, how many times you can transfer, one - two - three - four times. Officer who is making his own persanality. Come under pressure in the same mistake with a second detect. There is a big roll of the SP of the district is, if the SP honest and under no pressure comes, the effect on the entire team. Otherwise the entire team is the same as his, because he honestly officer who works puts in the work of the intervention.
0 - Naxalites in Chhattisgarh against the war is so great, this being that while the number of policemen on the case of fake encounter are recorded, the latest example of Ambikapur in the event, in which a police officer to the Naxalite prize encoumter To the President for promotion with medals and was also provided for the same encounter of 302 to the case has been established, on what you would like to say?
00 - Look at Ambikapur in the court case is still pending, so I do not speak note. I believe that if the fake encounter is wrong. The police have the right within the law. When the police are outside the law, he himself is illegal. Instead of being seen that as many naxal or terrorism, there are a group of people who stand to encounter all attempts to prove the fake. If you have ten witnesses as the man to stand trial, the prosecution but will be sustained to maintain this does not mean that you have been proved guilty. If the Court is correct, your encounter your release of course. The Department of thing, to support the Department of encounter situation does not doubt it helps complete. But there is a doubt with the extent of any can be given with. Many officials in the country of his case for the benefit of the fake encounter to come. Now if any officer does, how it can be prevented? Every place is not the senior officer present. Where - or wherever the naxal terrorism, there has been a problem with it, the All-India on the label is being considered, but the problem is that based on what we can say that will not be fake encounter. So after every encounter its operation is investigating magistrate. Ambikapur in the case of no value to the investigation magistrate court. In most cases, the official with the Department is giving that time, it also gets salary. The Court says that you have not done encounter fake, the court said that it is always has it - these are evidence, which prima facie encounter found to be fake. Then you is that you work and it proved to be false after winning damage can also claim.
0 - Bastar in such a big level, the force has been deployed, but there has been a policeman, who seemed to have been sent there in the punnisment. Some officials and leaders of the time - often say is that he also saw the official transfer of Bastar will get. What you view it?
00 - Look, here's the anxiety, but when you jump in the field of battle, are not always nervous. The examples I am giving, yet the people who are 12 policemen killed one of his fellow victims of malaria for the delivery of a gang of 35 men left. On the way to the attack by the Naxalites. 12 policemen, the rest of her peers to be asked to. Twelve of them knew well that they are paralyzed, his death is to be sure, but they still hold, it shows how high the morale of the Force. There are policemen from the bad times, but there seems to arrive after the moral down the left can not. The thing is, the police punnisment fight for the young man is, it should not be taken as punnisment.
0 - Andhra Pradesh, the Naxalites from the way the police to take the front facilities are getting, so why can not we? Are we to force back like Andhra Pradesh can give support?
00 - we also pay in the case of Andhra Pradesh on the lines are going to work, the STF salary of 50 per cent of the increase. The young man who DF intensive naxal area and 20 percent are in their salary soldiers deployed in the urban area of 15 percent boost in pay to have the proposal was sent to the State Government that will be approved soon. The resources of the men to talk about all the things needed was made available, but has been observed that young bullet-proof jacket and a cap to be not because of heavy wear. There is another problem, Naxalites more man power, they dantewada - equal to training camp in Bijapur of the wild run, including Jharkhand, AP, Orissa, Maharashtra, place about 2 thousand people to 12 months of training is given . Naxal 300 over the police do not attack ever on the team, the 30-40 men attacked them on the team, in front of a large team, they are away.
0 - Bastar, you are 22 years ago, to today's Bastar you're watching, there to see what changes?
00 - problem of Bastar in Naxal, the first rule of the information we had. 198 1 Sun is a matter of when I was at that time, AIG special branch information that had come up in the area Naxal walks are out. It is not that at that time were not MP in Naxal, the first in the Naxalite MP in arrest was bhopalpatnam of 196 8. The second was in 1971 arrest in Jagdalpur. Then I visited the whole of Bastar. i travel as a journalist in the wild, and so does not see any identity card. sukma, golapalli, bhopalpattnam the whole area, including a visit by government reported. Then, the SP made me there. At that time today than in the Bastar police force was too low. Many stations in the force was only 1-4. Yet many of the force increased. 198 2 in the new battalion was created. Bastar Development Plan. I was also the SP and the commandant of the battalion. PTS was opened there. trendmen were. konta that time, golapalli, etc. chintaguda was more movement in areas of the Naxalites. At that time, the Naxalites blast did not start. Chandrapur in the blast had, in AP begun, but was not in Bastar. Bastar was a very quiet place at that time. All around the green. abhojhmad I crossed on foot. At that time there was not a Naxalite. Now there danger environment.
Painting and photography do not find time for
0 - you poet - is also the writer, the police busy for this time how out of life?
00 - I am not only a poet and writer, I too am a photographer, I am also painting. My missing painting and photography. My paintings, including several cities in the Bastar exbition also take up already. Yet the time for poetry just gets me. For those that separate for the time required to remove, for the poem anywhere and anytime to see. Train in the run - and was due to see him write. I am not in the people who work at the time of all the other work. I get what money is a job for police. I walked from the same family, so my first priority is the work of the police to give me. I am not compromising it, both my painting and photography Missing. Is a moving poem, because I can write it anywhere am, I wander the need for photography, painting for me to sit him. It also may take up to two hours five hours. For this, which I will have to remove the time can not remove. Therefore, only poetry is underway. The second thing I am not able to and I think, that it can call only after retirement. My grandfather was Raghupati Sahai firak gorakhpuri that Urdu poet of the largest known. Biography of his work were, it also stops here. We have been working on a novel he had also been halted. Biography, novels, stories, photography, painting, I compromised by the police can not work because the police department I am alive, my family alive. Between poetry - is out in between. Even many of my fellow paused to complete the work speak, I am giving them the same answer.
0 - You have also worked in Bihar, here and there in the difference between what you find?
00 - many differences, there is now the issue of ethnicity has become political. Now there STSC, backward talking about low. There is increased political awareness in people. People are educated. In politics, with all the work that's ongoing right now Mayawati has already done a lot is happening there. There is not a cast on his election victory. Naxalism can not be viewed from adding it. Naxal fighting over there are local issues. As they have landed in the war on forest about. Land and compensation in Jharkhand, they raised the point, people began to Deceive, you have not found some of the people came out here and are ruled. Companies like Tata there had already come. Therefore, they do not pick up the point. These are not left in Bihar, where the Naxalites to make weapons. North Bihar in the big - big landlord, who has 10-10 thousand acres of land. There is too great prosperity in the poverty gap, but there is also something special Naxal can not. There's poor, they were tortured on them by the zamindars of the provocative attempts. But there's too much to the landlord of its employees to cooperate, married - married to cooperate in full, on the train from Patna send sick pay, so their pulse there is not much problem is found. political awerness over there, you will see the letter - magazines, radio station, the highest in the letter of that amount from Bihar. It is also a small remote village from which it asks the question on national issues. In Chhattisgarh, people are very direct. political little to no awerness villages. Now slowly - it is slowly growing. As Raipur, Bilaspur, the castle is visible in the surrounding areas. One reason, and also, just reading here - writing about it is that awareness has not had in Bihar. natural here are full of resources, which are not in Bihar.
0 - you immediately from the Government of India to ten battalions are demanding, the Union Cabinet secretary is also a matter of you already. What they expect, how long will find how the battalion?
00 - Government of India on the label of the battalion is still a lot of stringency. We sit here very easily demand can, but I am also there, so I know what that faced with the problem. Elections are due in just four states, the Election Commission has kept him alert. On short notice, they will need to divert Force. The centre is the biggest problem. There's all very well know that the officer against Naxalites, the biggest battle is going on here and also to give help. Remove from the force but where? They feel that much force in 15 days and send it back to not make a call. I do not think that a large number of right, but 4-5 battalions, we will soon.
